Conversation Commentaries
#2: Greg Koukl’s Conversation with an Atheist about Christianity and Morality
Here are the links to both episodes of the full conversations with Koukl and the Atheist Doug:
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Here are the links to both episodes of the full conversations with Koukl and the Atheist Doug:
Hey John:
First off, I believe that overall Koukl does a very good job in restraining the jabbing, staccato style of his opponent. Of course we would like him to be more on the offensive, but that has the disadvantage of turning off the progress of his argument. It’s rare that a fight is a knock-out or a war doesn’t have its Pyrrhic victories. The important point, I believe, is that Koukl controls the narrative. THAT is what we need to do in such discourse.
Second, I can think of several logical possibilities where we would need Jesus even without a Hell. God could have made it that we either live forever on Earth without getting to Heaven if we do not follow Christ. In such a case we would be in a world of participating goods and lack of goods rather than in Goodness itself. Or we could be in such a situation even after we die. Or we could merely blink out of existence if we don’t get to Heaven. This atheistic moron is using the tactic of portraying the Faith in its worst possible perspective. I myself would never admit his premise. Koukl changes the narrative by stating that “it’s about the relationship.”
Third, true to form the atheist goes after the difficult moral standards in the Bible, as Trent Horn wrote about in “Hard Sayings.” The only thing I would have added to Koukl ‘s dialogue with respect to the morality of drowning pregnant women would have been to pepper my response with something like “So you would then disagree with killing young babies in the womb and about to be born.” Koukl got the same point across, but my guess is that the atheist is a liberal in every way, and that would basically turn the argument back to make him defensive.
Good work John…
God bless.
Frank
Thanks for sharing these thoughts, Frank. I appreciate your input!